[What are the chances of finding a right-wing New Atheist?] Actually, the chances were pretty good. When it comes to foreign policy, a right-wing bias afflicts not just Hitchens's world view, but the whole ideology of "new atheism," especially as seen in the work of Hitchens allies Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins.Atheism has little intrinsic ideological bent. (Karl Marx. Ayn Rand. I rest my case.) But things change when you add the key ingredient of the new atheism: the idea that religion is not just mistaken, but evil -- that it "poisons everything," as Hitchens has put it with characteristic nuance.
While it is true there are right-wing atheist, to say that a New Atheist must have a hawkish stance on foreign policy to qualify as such, is just foolish. It is my belief that the New Atheist movement is a battle for the middle. We aren’t going to be able to win over the far right, not in Islam, not in Judaism, nor in Christianity. This is because the far right cannot be reasoned with like the middle can be. For every fundamentalist there are ten people on the fence waiting to be influenced either way. Religions have a methodical and well funded effort to reach these minds, atheist do not. I know it is cliché, but New Atheism is a battle for the hearts and minds, not an effort to snuff out religion in one giant effort. It is a piecemail process.
Robert continues:
Consider Dawkins's assertion, in his book The God Delusion, that if there were no religion then there would be "no Israeli-Palestinian wars."For starters, this is just wrong. The initial resistance to the settlements, and to the establishment of Israel, wasn't essentially religious, and neither was the original establishment of the settlements, or even of Israel.
No Mr. Wright you are just wrong. Both parties in the conflict believe that the land was promised to them by God. If the Jews didn’t believe that Israel was their promised land, it is doubtful that they would have chosen to settle there after World War II. Since these people actually believe that how they serve their God will determine an afterlife of paradise or torment, it makes perfect sense for them to go to such extremes in trying to reach their political and religious goals. After all what is worse, blowing oneself up in a crowded market, or an eternity of torture? To believe you have a mandate which trumps all reason and reality is the first step to extremism.
Of course, when religion is handy, special problems can arise. If there were no belief in paradise, there would be few suicide bombers. Then again, there might be less charity. Whether belief in posthumous rewards has on balance done more harm than good is an empirical question whose subtlety Dawkins, Harris, and Hitchens don't exactly emphasize.
Anyway, the question is how to reduce the number of suicide bombers. And I have to wonder: If some Jihadists are motivated partly by fear that the west threatens their religious culture, is the optimal counter-terrorism strategy to have know-it-all westerners tell them their God doesn't exist?
The notion that there would be less charity if religion lost it’s influence is pure speculation. I admit, a lot of charity has a religious origin, but there are many secular charities as well. These charities are fully devoted to their cause, not also a religious agenda. Some of your money donated to them goes to building churches in far off lands, paying missionaries and to church administration. Maybe shortly after an atheist revolution would there be a drop off, but I wonder what the case would be 100 years from such an event? I suspect charities would rebound, and we would be without the draw backs of religion (intolerance, violence, etc). Countless man hours and money are put into churches and other religious interests; one has to believe that some of that would be reinvested back into society.
As for his second point that denying the existence of God will only serve to drive more to radicalization is fundamentally flawed. Mr. Wright fails to realize that a vast majority of these people wouldn’t be radicalized if it wasn’t for their belief in a higher power/mandate. Again, a New Atheist isn’t going to convince the staunch believer; the most likely to be a radical. It is working to convince the people with secret doubts, doubts strong enough to prevent them from strapping on a suicide vest and going to a club in Tel-Aviv. Given that to be an atheist is punishable by death in most Muslim countries, it is doubtful that we will ever see it take root publically until enough of the moderates can be swayed - at least to tolerate it in others.
Thoughts?
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my cat's breath smells like cat food.
The feeblest of defenses is being mounted in the theist camps, against the Dawkins / Hitchens / Harris arguments - that is to claim atheism is a new religion with followers just as (potentially) lethal as any other.
Besides being a huge misconception of the atheist viewpoint, it seeks to deflect the criticism of aimed at religion rather than address the arguments.
It's cynical and obvious, but the strategy of painting the un-believer as an enemy and potential threat has worked so well for hundreds of years that you can see why they'd stick with it.
Willing to bet that atheists have an overwhelming leftist politics...everyone in my immediate atheist community does regardless of age, race, gender, nationality...
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